The confusion stems from the fact that apparently we didn’t know it but we’re all on an episode of Who’s Line is it Anyways, where everythings made up and the points don’t matter.
Yeah man pretty ridiculous. They have a copy and paste response, without explaining the 1st sentence of the description. I’m not gonna be betting here if they don’t rectify the situation. When I lose fair and square, I don’t ask for anything. There’s been a few times I personally misread something, and I chalked it up to my own negligence. But this is way different. Tbh I’d love to see someone who originally had their wager graded as a lost then a win. To be frank I can see them playing both sides and grading everyone as a loss.
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This is all i ask as well. I just find it really odd that nobody is in here defending the wording of the wager. I honestly think everyone got their wagers graded as a loss
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No updates?
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This doesn’t require a week of research. Someone has the authority to make this right and they’re ignoring the problem, knowing that there’s not a damn thing any bettor can do about it, and they’re going to do nothing because eventually everyone will give up and move on. I hope that anyone who would bet squares (or any other game, for that matter) remembers this and no longer places bets on Bovada.
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Not just for squares. How do you place any bet on a site if i have to not only understand the bet but also have to try to figure out what their interpretation of the bet can be. Can you trust a site that can possibly grade any bet any way they want to and possibly minimize their losses and justify it as their interpretation of the bet.
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Bet on the winning team, Nope its a loss. We meant the bet was for team that wins our hearts not the score.
Imagine if other industries start adopting Bovada logic. Go in for a heart transplant, BOOM now you got an extra lung. Cuz their definition of heart transplant is a transplant with whatever they got. Buy a nonstop flight ticket from LA to NYC, BOOM you got 2 layovers cuz they meant each flight to each layover city was nonstop.
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I definitely am not. Bet US here I come I guess ahah
@Mrdpark go in to surgery for a penis enlargement but end up with a vagina… i am sure this will not last long…
Just FYI we should have a more concrete answer on this on this early this week.
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Circling back to this…
We have been authorized to issue 50% of the potential win amount to players who lost on the Squares wagers as a good will gesture. This will be issued in the form of our standard bonus.
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Sheesh good thing I had no dog in this fight. I would be furious
How did that take two weeks to decide? No dog in the fight either, but yikes
And then to receive only 50% of what imo should be a win due to bad wording alone
For me to be lost on this outcome says a lot. I’ll leave it at that.
Based on the op post
Why was i paid for the win?
The bet was clearly explained. Here it is copied
KC 8 PHI 5 (+6000)
Kansas City Chiefs @ Philadelphia Eagles
(Game) Squares Game - Any Quarter
Squares Game for any Quarter. The winning selections will be the two end digits of each team’s Score at the end of each Quarter . For example, if the score at the end of 1Q is Kansas 3 Philadelphia 14, then the 1st winning selection will be KC 3 PHI 4. If the 2Q score is Kansas 10 Philadelphia 7 then the 2nd winning selection will be KC 0 PHI 7. If the 3Q score is Kansas 14 Philadelphia 14 then the 3rd winning selection will be KC 4 PHI 4.
The final score was KC 38 PHI 35 thus KC 8/PHI 5
Somewhere in the thread it was mentioned that it wasn’t based on the final score of the quarter but the cumulative score of the quarter.
Note that you bet on an any quarter squares wager, which is ultimately the score at the end of each quarter score. It isn’t the actual score at the end of each quarter, but each quarter’s score.
The key to take away from the op post is this
The winning selections will be the two end digits of each team’s Score at the end of each Quarter .
No where does it state total points of each quarter that I can see or read into.
I don’t know the total amount involved that was paid out for this alternate version of squares but in my book it doesn’t matter.
The players involved that were paid for this alternate way of squares should remain paid and those that lost should remain losers.
However based on the wording and content of the offering, those that won based on wording of a traditional square pool should be paid, maybe not at the odds listed but a traditional pool amount.
I’m guessing the problem with that is that people were betting various amounts on the squares at various odds and it wasn’t a traditional square pool with a set amount of money to be won, which should have sent flags up to the buyers. Because let’s face it, no traditional square pool is going to allow you to pick your number at fixed odds, it’s a one on one bet between you and the house. It’s not 100 people with a set number and a set prize pool amount.
I fully agree with the players about the wording not being what it should be, I would’ve questioned that but in seeing set odds per square, that would’ve told me it wasn’t traditional squares you were buying. Note that traditional squares have numbers posted after the block is full or right before kick off if it’s not completely full.
So yes the wording was bad, but you had to know it wasn’t a traditional square contest.
Bottom line for me, is I would just pay out what people won and call it the cost of doing business. Most people would lose it all back anyway so the net result is goodwill and the house gets it money back and likely way more in the end.
Just my two cents and only post on this subject.
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We totally agree on the bottom line. A business that takes care of its customers keeps its customers and gains new ones. One that consistently stiffs them loses customers. For a business like gambling where many/most gamblers will gamble as much money as they have in their account, and the house will steadily skim off 5% or so of all the sports book action, why on earth would the house want to nit pick with the bettors? Learn the lesson for next time with wording the bet, pay off both sides, and move on. All that money will flow right back into their coffers soon enough, and the customers won’t have such ill will toward Bovada. Obviously the owners/decision makers of Bovada have absolutely no common sense when it comes to business. Any business that operates on the principle “Let’s find every possible way to screw our customers” is going to steadily lose business. And in this era of legal online sports books advertising every time you turn on the TV or open a web page, it’s hard to fathom how Bovada’s management can be this dumb.
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According to the whole conversation above, this wager was defined with examples even stating it would be the last digits of the score for ANY quarter. Bovada paid me for this wager and then 15 mins later took it back. It clearly was Bovada’s fault for not clarifying what the bet was for. How can a NFL team even score just 1 point in a quarter. If the vocabulary had actually clarified it was points scored in the quarter alone without giving examples like a normal square bet there wouldn’t have been this issue. I posted this, so I can get some help to get paid the 50% bonus for my “potential winnings” that is mentioned above by another moderator.
If the score would have been 2 digits at the end of the quarter only the last digit would count towards the settlement. I’ll add the amount as a bonus.